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Surena · Apr 02, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

via a NPC who'd demand a certain amount for it, let's say 5k, would you consider that an interesting feature?

Would it hurt the market because my 15% while hexed longsword converted to "strength and honor" would steal the gold I might have given to you instead, because you apparently had one to sell?

Or would you fear having to miss the local-chat abusers yelling "100k XXX Ectos No Noobs"?

The customization would be restricted to "gold" weapons only.

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 02, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Inscribable*

And maybe just propose you're idea instead of tacking on pointless flame bait.

Surena · Apr 02, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

Inscribable*

And maybe just propose you're idea instead of tacking on pointless flame bait.

"your", not you're, thanks too.

You could at least have stated your opinion.

The idea obviously only speaks of adding the ability to add inscriptions on a customized weapon. No other features (like maxing out the damage) proposed for now.

GODh · Apr 02, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Tbh i dont see this happen as i think it will have a huge impact on the economy... i dont know every price by head, but i will try to give an example (with fictive prices):

Crystaline R9 15%^50 = 1000 ecto's??
Crystaline R9 12%^hexed = 80k??

Why would anyone still buy the R9 15^50??

FelixCarter · Apr 02, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by GODh

Tbh i dont see this happen as i think it will have a huge impact on the economy... i dont know every price by head, but i will try to give an example (with fictive prices):

Crystaline R9 15%^50 = 1000 ecto's??
Crystaline R9 12%^hexed = 80k??

Why would anyone still buy the R9 15^50??

Because people are lemmings.

HawkofStorms · Apr 02, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

/notsigned

Also lots of flamebaits in this.

Helcaraxe · Apr 02, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I would like to point out that almost all forms have income have already been nerfed, now you are suggesting that we try to nerf another one. If people could just add a different inscription... then the +5 energy oni blade I just got is worthless. Why? because someone could get a white max damage req 9 one... and mod the whole thing themselves, there would be no incentive to buy these kinda of high end weapons.

I would like it that if next time you maybe thought out your idea a bit more thouroughly before suggesting a market crash.

The Herbalizer · Apr 02, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

/not signed

wont happen

this will get flamed sooo much

eggs0wn · Apr 02, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

/signed

He said if CUSTOMIZED weapons...

Deleet · Apr 02, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by eggs0wn

/signed

He said if CUSTOMIZED weapons...

Which means all weapons...

Retribution X · Apr 02, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

I would like to point out that almost all forms have income have already been nerfed, now you are suggesting that we try to nerf another one. If people could just add a different inscription... then the +5 energy oni blade I just got is worthless. Why? because someone could get a white max damage req 9 one... and mod the whole thing themselves, there would be no incentive to buy these kinda of high end weapons.

I would like it that if next time you maybe thought out your idea a bit more thouroughly before suggesting a market crash.

Actually, lots of people buy golds as a status symbol. Would it have an effect on that? not really.

If I want a status symbol, I'm going to buy the BEST weapon I can find, Not the max white/blue/purple ones.

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Originally Posted by Deleet

Which means all weapons...

Um, yeah, but you can't resell the weapons afterwards.

gameshoes3003 · Apr 02, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

This would probably make getting very good weapons, didn't say nice looking ones, too easy. Just buy Nightfall and then get a blue weapon from a collector and then upgrade it.

legion_rat · Apr 03, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

/signed

still dont give a damn about the "Market" I dont buy other peoples weapons (with the excetion of a few greens that would not be applicable to this post) and see no problem with giving a merchant/crafter that could make our weapons better. But only if they are customized. This way the only person you could sell them to is a merchant and at a loss.

~the rat~

Surena · Apr 03, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

I would like to point out that almost all forms have income have already been nerfed

Oh, that's why I see people duo-farming Titan gems, ectos still? PvErs with mighty equipment such as tormented weapons, multiple FoW-Sets? Right, it has sooo been nerfed. Why is DoA still so full and ToA too on favor times?

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f people could just add a different inscription... then the +5 energy oni blade I just got is worthless. Why? because someone could get a white max damage req 9 one... and mod the whole thing themselves, there would be no incentive to buy these kinda of high end weapons.

Well, the idea is restricted for gold weapons, I'll add a line. Care too much about others? I don't buy anything from the high-end section here. I still have a 15^50 Oni/Gothic/Long/Fell/Chaos/Runic/Dual-Gothic/Mursaat...albeit, not req 7 gawdly but I never run weaponmastery below 14 anyways.

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I would like it that if next time you maybe thought out your idea a bit more thouroughly before suggesting a market crash.

I advise you to fear "pixel crash" less. The only time something "crashed" was in summer 2005 (the other time we had a rollback).

Not A Fifty Five · Apr 03, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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yeah.. this would not affect prices at all. I'm a chest runner. If I find a gold req 8-9 rare skin of market interest its worth 50k+. A purple of same stats? 2-5k.

People screaming market crash should first think about the market. The fact that a >>chest runner<< is supporting this should mean that no "market crash" is remotely possible.

The people interested in inscribing whites will NOT buy low req golds except to buy low sell higher which is simple market abritration.

EDIT: Erm.. didnt read the whole thing apparently. Golds only eh? I would say this is just a way to cheat people out of well earned chest farming/running >.> I.e. people buy keys and then chest farm, if this occured prices would drop a lot. Halting a farm is annoying but acceptable if for the right reasons. Taking wealth away from people (which is what this does) is bullsh*%

MithranArkanere · Apr 03, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

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Originally Posted by GODh

Tbh i dont see this happen as i think it will have a huge impact on the economy... i dont know every price by head, but i will try to give an example (with fictive prices):

Crystaline R9 15%^50 = 1000 ecto's??
Crystaline R9 12%^hexed = 80k??

Why would anyone still buy the R9 15^50??

You must look forward.

The perfect one will drop its price, and the flawed one will have its price increased, why? Because the skin would be the only important thing, as it should be from the start.

So, the gold would be more spread.

That is good.

max gladius · Apr 03, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

I am a collector of rarity... some of you may know this.... if they let u change inscripts on customized gold weapons it would greatly affect the market...

I personally customize 0 weapons... because i know for a fact that most of my weapons will be being sold 4 months from time i get it because i want something different....

All prices would go crazy... not sure if some of u know, but u can get gold weapons without even a dmg bonus on them in the first place... items that use to be worth just their mod, would soon be worth thousands, and items that use to be worth 100k would soon be worth 10k....

Then... long term result would be weapon prices would go way down, there for less ppl would need large amounts of money, there for less people would farm anything... there for ecto prices would actualy go up after a time and those ppl crying because they cant turn their req 9 crystaline 12% w/ hexed (super old school, and yes gold) would soon be crying that they cant get enough ecto's to get their FOW armor....

The game economy, like the world, is ballanced on a few factors... supply and demand and also "value", value is based on what ppl r willing to pay for something... ppl drive Lamborghini because they can afford them and want to show off their money, noone needs one....
as for weapons, you dont "need" all ur weapons to be 15^50... customize them as u suggest, and u r already doing more dmg then my rare skinned 15^50's... u get 20%...
just like u can put a jet engine on ur honda accord and go faster then a Lamborghini.... but ur still driving a honda, and im in a lamborghini... what u r suggesting is once u put that jet engine on ur honda, it transforms into a lamborghini....

/notsigned

MithranArkanere · Apr 03, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Ah... the fears of greed...

What you say is that prices should raise over time, instead of going down?
We are not talking about a lamborgin and an honda.

We are talking about making making a low end lambirgini only work when you use it, and upgrading it so it matches the more expensive ones of the brand.

Something you can't sell has no value.

Oh, I have a perfect whatever skin... this will make my skin cost less...

And what? Who cares? More important than that, It would make people able to use change the attributes keeping the skin they like. That's more important than that market of yours.
Who needs 1000k in the storage, anyways? Geez.

HawkofStorms · Apr 03, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Yes, Mithran, you are right, there are more important things in this game then the market.

One of them is character development. A.net has already admited that the lack of meaningful character development is the major downside of GW and what they are hopeing to fix with GW2. Without searching for weapons or farming for high end armor, there is no character development or end game goal.

Keeping the prices of stuff low so new players stay happy is stupid because eventually, those players will become experienced players. When they do, they will realize there is nothing left to do because of these sorts of things.

gameshoes3003 · Apr 03, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

This wouldn't matter if there were no market. Just set prices. But uum... it ain't that way.